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Post by isaackoi on Jan 4, 2011 17:00:37 GMT -5
Six pages werer given to Promethous for them to get an expert to see what they say.... I have around six to eight more... Hi Jim, Many thanks for taking the time to provide some further answers to the questions which caused me to start this thread. As part of my losing battle to reduce the amount of duplication of work on various forums relating to the "possible message" by passing on the more interesting news/analysis, I passed on your comments earlier today to a couple of forums (e.g. the AboveTopSecret forum) with a link back here, since I've presumed you would be happy to share information posted on this public form (as opposed to your restriction on reposting information from your Facebook page). Just let me know if you, or the moderators of this forum, would prefer that I don't do this. My Christmas vacation ended yesterday, so I will have far less time for this issue in the near future. I look forward to hearing more about the other pages and, in particular, the forensic tests in due course. Hopefully you will have some time to answer some questions from me about the Rendlesham Incident more generally once I've pulled together and cross-referenced all the relevant material I've collated - which (given that we are talking about discussions from over 90 books, in addition to material from the MOD, television documentaries etc etc) probably means that I will not be asking those more wider questions in the next few months... All the best, Isaac
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Post by kieran on Jan 4, 2011 20:16:37 GMT -5
I have had my own experiences, but I have always been fascinated by this case, more so now, since this co-ordinates are pointing to place that is close to me, and might have been important in human history, but has lost since been forgotten!
I don't want to taint what might come out of this yet I have some views that I need to express.
I have been studying Irish folklore, and what it's possible connections with the UFO phenomenon could be for a number of years. This island was said to be last resting home of the 'Tuathann de Dannann' Hy brazilians is not really the case as brought up in the Ancient-Aliens programme. Like I said I don't want to taint this investigation with my knowledge and research, but the Tuatha de Dannann, were alleged to have occupied Ireland in the distant past considered a golden time,it existed many thousands of years before the rise of the Roman Empire.
There is lot of records on their existence in museums and universities and schools...Today Irish schoolchildren are taught these weird tales and legends, but not in the sense of there being reality behind it. Just for the people who are interested one record is the "Book of Invasions" it was composed and written by christen-monks in the 11th century, the book has a different title in native- Irish.
Historians and scholars have a believe there is no truth to any of these legends foretold, but up till 17th century this book, and many others similar to it, were viewed, as being accurate account of Irish history, but that changed after that date. It obvious why, some of the stuff talked about in the books, one I have mentioned, goes against what we are all been teached, the ideas in the Irish legend don't correspondent to our social beliefs and cultural beliefs of were civilization might have started from. The're is tales in these books and manuscripts and texts of supernatural things, talk of weird and odd technology and magic and other stuff that does not make sense to our view of the ancient world, but in view of this weird-UFO phenomenon, we have going on since 1947 and before makes lot more sense now on closer inspection.
Anyway I have been watching, what has been going on, and I am worried that Linda's experts have changed the co-ordinates to suit an agenda. The reason given was Jim's 1's and O's could not be read probably, well it was hard to tell the difference or something, between some of the numbers on the pages, that makes no sense at all to me at least. I have seen some of the pages, i could clearly see them on the page,and you can't mistake a 1 for O and O for 1 that is just common sense. Just think about it for a second look at the page and see if you would mistake a 1 for O on the pages of Jim's notebook.
To me, and I don't mind some clarity on this issue, but it seems these experts and I have not got their names to hand, are putting a decimal point, were they'd believed it should be, but that is just wrong again my opinion. But if there is another reason for why the original co-ordinates are wrong I like to hear it, this excuse however does not make lot of sense at all. Anyway thanks for reading and I will say night.
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Post by hawkingparadox on Jan 4, 2011 20:30:32 GMT -5
I thought I heard Jim state that he can still visualize the binary code. If this is correct I would suggest Jim do a video in which he recites the numbers. I believe it would really do a lot towards quieting those who question his credibility. (I for one do not.) Also I would encourage Jim to photograph all pages and post them on-line for review by the public and experts alike. This is indeed amazing information and it's dissemination across the web is critical to both quieting critics and to evaluating the data. There are many supporters who look forward to this information, and many experts who are looking forward to the possible interpretations of this code. The withholding of information is fuel for the skeptics and is so very similar to many fraudulent withholdings in an effort to profiteer. I have much confidence in Jim and the other military personnel involved and I absolutely do not want to see them pigeon holed in this manner. Jim, please release this information without concern to others. Regards, Andrew
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Post by hawkingparadox on Jan 4, 2011 22:06:42 GMT -5
He says "still can" remember at 9:10 of the post. Thank you for clarifying. I appreciate all your efforts and response. Please keep up the great work. We are anxiously awaiting. Is there any reason why the pages can't be photographed and released pending the review of the experts?
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Post by ronniedugdale on Jan 5, 2011 10:01:21 GMT -5
Its nice to know the recordings have there use even though the quality at times was not good :)it can at least stand as evidence to what was said.
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Post by hawkingparadox on Jan 5, 2011 16:33:32 GMT -5
Admin, I think I've found either an amazing coincidence or solid support for Jim's binary code. There seems to be an inclination to alter the code for mistakes, including the use of the term CEPR following "Continous". However I believe the use of that term was intentional. CepR is a term used by gene experts and microbiologists in the binding and repression of DNA strands. I can't imagine Mr. Penniston had any familiarity with this term as used in reference to microbiology or DNA. Perhaps this supports some of the recall Mr. Penniston had under hypnosis. This binary code interpretation is amazing! Once again thank you for this forum to share thoughts.
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Post by 13tesla14jbe on Jan 6, 2011 7:10:56 GMT -5
Hello John & James, If we convert the decimal latitude and longitude coordinates contained within the Rendlesham binary code (52.0942532, 1.3131269) to degrees, we get, 52° 5′ 39.3115″, 1° 18′ 47.2566″ which then points--not to Hy Brasil--as the History Channel apparently suggests, but to Woodbridge.
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Post by uforn on Jan 6, 2011 7:25:35 GMT -5
Hello John & James, If we convert the decimal latitude and longitude coordinates contained within the Rendlesham binary code (52.0942532, 1.3131269) to degrees, we get, 52° 5′ 39.3115″, 1° 18′ 47.2566″ which then points--not to Hy Brasil--as the History Channel apparently suggests, but to Woodbridge. Hi, This has been explained already in this thread
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Post by ronniedugdale on Jan 6, 2011 12:02:31 GMT -5
Hi Hawkinparadox... the actual translation is on page 4 CONTINUO (T) UQSCEPR BEFORE which contains errors as do page 1 of the pages from Jims notebook transcribed on Linda Moulton Howe's Earthfiles where after HUMANITY and before 8100 the 8bit ASCii code only contain 7 digits. so it is speculation .Maybe Jim would consider hypnosis in an attempt to clarify the code? www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1802&category=Environment
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Post by hawkingparadox on Jan 6, 2011 17:11:16 GMT -5
Thank you. Then from a DNA microbiology standpoint UQSCEPR means: Ubiquinone species Chondrocyte expressed protein Receptor Perhaps this is coincedence or perhaps this is intended to identify the intention of the exploration? Perhaps a microbiolgist or gene expert can shed some more light. Take a look at this report: onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1080/15216549700204471/pdfIt may be the message is part of the mission statement for the craft? (Also when you diagram the molecular chart of the protein it resembles somewhat the pictograms on the craft.) It certainly relates to the hypnosis session where he states "....but it has to do with chromosomes." I hope this proves helpful, and would like to hear some feedback. Regards.
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Post by Admin on Jan 7, 2011 12:35:01 GMT -5
From John posted on our FB Page
"There will be a update on the codes today at EarthFiles.com"
Keep an eye out for updates at Earthfiles.
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Post by Simon on Jan 8, 2011 7:23:40 GMT -5
new page at earthfiles is up, but no scans of the notebook yet. mostly discussion of the possible latitude/longitude combinations.
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Post by ronniedugdale on Jan 8, 2011 7:52:36 GMT -5
There is an update of the binary codes on Earthfiles.com and as i had previously stated the code is part in 8 bit Ascii and part in 7bitAscii returning back to 8 bit Ascii. with there being no binary for the decimal point in the co olrdinates it now throws up multiple locations, but the most obvious of those offered is woodbridge , surely. Linda asks
If any Earthfiles viewer has professional knowledge or knows a skilled binary stream analyst who could help us apply 7-bit and 8-bit code “filter combs” to Penniston's zeros and ones, please email: earthfiles@earthfiles.com.
I had tried to encode in 7 bit and it made no sense , of these few pages available i have tried filtering in 7 and eight bit and the current translation makes the most sense and the woodbridge co ordinate also.
just a thought... Perhaps Nick Pope with his Ministry connections could persuade the asssistance of a military code breaker, It is a possibility that the code includes Ascii extensions and so clearly expert help is needed. Good work Linda Linda Moulton Howe , updates available at Earthfiles.com
kind regard Ronnie
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Post by kieran on Jan 8, 2011 7:53:38 GMT -5
new page at earthfiles is up, but no scans of the notebook yet. mostly discussion of the possible latitude/longitude combinations. Which direction is it west or east? (Longitude) Should, not be that difficult to figure out, if there is no east in the code at all, why even look at that as a possibility? If the code was meant to have a decimal point, it begs the question, If this, was a download that came from an advanced non human intelligence, surely this intelligence will know what there doing here, it seems a big mistake to leave the point out really hey! Taking that all into account. I Personally believe the numbers are meant to read like they do, and therefore, we are doing more harm than good, the location original one is likely the correct one. We have not all seen the full- decoded message yet, but well it should be released, so we can figure this out!
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Post by uforn on Jan 8, 2011 10:08:35 GMT -5
There is an update of the binary codes on Earthfiles.com and as i had previously stated the code is part in 8 bit Ascii and part in 7bitAscii returning back to 8 bit Ascii. with there being no binary for the decimal point in the co olrdinates it now throws up multiple locations, but the most obvious of those offered is woodbridge , surely. Linda asks If any Earthfiles viewer has professional knowledge or knows a skilled binary stream analyst who could help us apply 7-bit and 8-bit code “filter combs” to Penniston's zeros and ones, please email: earthfiles@earthfiles.com. I had tried to encode in 7 bit and it made no sense , of these few pages available i have tried filtering in 7 and eight bit and the current translation makes the most sense and the woodbridge co ordinate also. just a thought... Perhaps Nick Pope with his Ministry connections could persuade the asssistance of a military code breaker, It is a possibility that the code includes Ascii extensions and so clearly expert help is needed. Good work Linda Linda Moulton Howe , updates available at Earthfiles.com kind regard Ronnie Hi Ronnie, i stated in an earlier post that i think the Binary Code should be sent to a University to be looked at by Scientists, i think this is the way that Jim should go about this,
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